# As a lemon, the saddest thing in my life is knowing that I will never win

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bgmg

Even Freud [...] and his psychology IQ was through the roof.

A conman on a huge drug trip. All of his research was debunked as entirely nonsensical.

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zwwe

Sigh, it seems there are two cults: people who value IQ way too much, and people who reject it entirely. Both are completely missing the point.

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unpd

What IQ is needed to guarantee a sense of humor?

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What IQ is needed to guarantee a sense of humor?

I think it's a matter of personality not IQ

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focu

Sigh, it seems there are two cults: people who value IQ way too much, and people who reject it entirely. Both are completely missing the point.

The psychometric evidence is clear: all cognitive tests are correlated with IQ. Moreover, g distills the most prized dimension of intelligence. Like OP says, the higher the IQ the better. How can you value IQ too much?

No other quantity has this much explanatory power. The only reason to reject it is wokeness.

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zwwe

I see I'm being trolled. Well done guys. :)

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ervx

Sigh, it seems there are two cults: people who value IQ way too much, and people who reject it entirely. Both are completely missing the point.

No. I value IQ about as much as it should be valued. — OP

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ervx

IQ matters. It correlates with many good life outcomes.

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xxzl

Even Freud [...] and his psychology IQ was through the roof.

A conman on a huge drug trip. All of his research was debunked as entirely nonsensical.

tbh I get the feeling that the entirety of cognitive science is wordsel bs where's Wittgenstein when you need him? oh well at least we have ChatGPT

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ervx

Freeman Dyson thought that Wittgenstein was a con artist, because the latter was a total jerk in a casual meeting between the two men. I like, trust, and admire Dyson more than Wittgenstein.

Then again, Saul Kripke respected Wittgenstein enough to spend much of his working life expounding on Wittgenstein.

So IDK. But Wittgenstein was an asshole. He abused children.

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cuzv

serious question: did anyone give an IQ test to chatgpt?

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ervx

Anyone notice how so many “great” philosophers were domestic abusers and, in some cases, literal pedophiles?

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ervx

serious question: did anyone give an IQ test to chatgpt?

Yeah it scored 85 IIRC

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njte

Sigh, it seems there are two cults: people who value IQ way too much, and people who reject it entirely. Both are completely missing the point.

No. I value IQ about as much as it should be valued. — OP

You belong to neither cult then. Where's the disagreement?

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xxzl

Freeman Dyson thought that Wittgenstein was a con artist, because the latter was a total jerk in a casual meeting between the two men. I like, trust, and admire Dyson more than Wittgenstein.

Then again, Saul Kripke respected Wittgenstein enough to spend much of his working life expounding on Wittgenstein.

So IDK. But Wittgenstein was an asshole. He abused children.

Paul Graham says, "I would say that this has been, unfortunately for philosophy, the central fact of philosophy. Most philosophical debates are not merely afflicted by but driven by confusions over words. Do we have free will? Depends what you mean by 'free.' Do abstract ideas exist? Depends what you mean by 'exist.' Wittgenstein is popularly credited with the idea that most philosophical controversies are due to confusions over language. I'm not sure how much credit to give him. I suspect a lot of people realized this, but reacted simply by not studying philosophy, rather than becoming philosophy professors."

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kavx
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No. I value IQ about as much as it should be valued. — OP

You belong to neither cult then. Where's the disagreement?

I belong to a third cult that was not listed. My mention of IQ in my previous comment was just an aside.

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kavx

Anyone notice how so many “great” philosophers were domestic abusers and, in some cases, literal pedophiles?

Great philosophers tend to be evil, twisted fucks. I don’t think I’ve seen many exceptions to this.

STOP GREAT PHILOSOPHERS!

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muni

IQ is the best predictor of everything positive. The rest of social science is creative writing.

More or less, but...

If your IQ is less than 160, you will have a hard time. For example, you won't get a job at OpenAI.

IQ 160 is way too rare to be a useful cutoff for anything socially significant.

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wphb

IQ is the best predictor of everything positive. The rest of social science is creative writing.

More or less, but...

If your IQ is less than 160, you will have a hard time. For example, you won't get a job at OpenAI.

IQ 160 is way too rare to be a useful cutoff for anything socially significant.

It is extremely socially significant. It distinguishes enlightened LessWrong disciples from simpletons who don't realize that all of social science is solved by g.

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dgec

IQ ~ GRE

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