# Forum Mathematics Sigma and Pi - have they been successful?

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lisr

it’s the arxiv of the T (and G) mafia.

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lsln
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They have real refereeing, real editing, etc. What makes MDPI crap is not it's publishing model per se, rather it's complete lack of seriousness and professionalism - they accept anything and everything after a week in spite of bad referee reports.

Some MDPI journals have real refereeing, and all of them are supported by professional editing. Examples of good MDPI journals:

Remote Sensing Atmosphere Sustainability Fluids

MDPI Remote Sensing has impact factor = 5.3, same as Annals Math.

You are posting the same comments everywhere.

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wppc

What is considered better, a publication in Forum Mathematics Sigma or in a random member of [IMRN, Advances, Mathematische Annalen, JLMS, Mathematika]?

What do you think?

Also will it hold its prestige, and will people keep publishing there in the future, after Tao stops sending papers to Sigma Pi?

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lisr

What is considered better, a publication in Forum Mathematics Sigma or in a random member of [IMRN, Advances, Mathematische Annalen, JLMS, Mathematika]?

What do you think?

Also will it hold its prestige, and will people keep publishing there in the future, after Tao stops sending papers to Sigma Pi?

obviously the random member of […] is better

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icfr

What is considered better, a publication in Forum Mathematics Sigma or in a random member of [IMRN, Advances, Mathematische Annalen, JLMS, Mathematika]?

What do you think?

Also will it hold its prestige, and will people keep publishing there in the future, after Tao stops sending papers to Sigma Pi?

obviously the random member of […] is better

Can you explain why? Please keep in mind, I am retarded.

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lisr
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obviously the random member of […] is better

Can you explain why? Please keep in mind, I am retarded.

because they are more well known, established and long existing journals who will be more easily known by random hiring committees. publishing in sigma and pi is more of a bet: you publish there even if they are trash in the hopes that one day they will become prestigious

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biao
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obviously the random member of […] is better

Can you explain why? Please keep in mind, I am retarded.

Because any journal is better than a fake one. QED

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gldn
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Can you explain why? Please keep in mind, I am retarded.

because they are more well known, established and long existing journals who will be more easily known by random hiring committees. publishing in sigma and pi is more of a bet: you publish there even if they are trash in the hopes that one day they will become prestigious

I don’t think this is true anymore. There are enough excellent people publishing in Sigma and Pi that most good mathematicians know that these journals signal quality these days.

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biao
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because they are more well known, established and long existing journals who will be more easily known by random hiring committees. publishing in sigma and pi is more of a bet: you publish there even if they are trash in the hopes that one day they will become prestigious

I don’t think this is true anymore. There are enough excellent people publishing in Sigma and Pi that most good mathematicians know that these journals signal quality these days.

Top people throwing their leftovers there because of personal connections.

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frir
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I don’t think this is true anymore. There are enough excellent people publishing in Sigma and Pi that most good mathematicians know that these journals signal quality these days.

Top people throwing their leftovers there because of personal connections.

lol as if Annals and the likes don’t require personal connections

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btam

Top people throwing their leftovers there because of personal connections.

If so then the impact factor would have been much lower. High impact factor can be engineered but it’s impossible to have both (i) high impact factor and (ii) many top authors unless you have a truly good journal. I’m inclined to think that this one is legit.

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lisr
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Top people throwing their leftovers there because of personal connections.

lol as if Annals and the likes don’t require personal connections

what does requiring personal connections have to do with being filled with leftovers of top people? the difference is that annals does not take leftovers.

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lisr

Top people throwing their leftovers there because of personal connections.

If so then the impact factor would have been much lower. High impact factor can be engineered but it’s impossible to have both (i) high impact factor and (ii) many top authors unless you have a truly good journal. I’m inclined to think that this one is legit.

Don’t sell us this bullshit. you make up a fake reasoning only to justify and rationalise what you already would like to believe.

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lisr

they should be called Journal of Leftovers Pi and Journal of Leftovers Sigma

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fomm

I am sorry that Forum Pi rejected your paper, lisr, but as someone who serves on a hiring committee I can inform you that Forum Pi/Sigma are both considered very serious and reputable journals.

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rtpq

Top people throwing their leftovers there because of personal connections.

If so then the impact factor would have been much lower. High impact factor can be engineered but it’s impossible to have both (i) high impact factor and (ii) many top authors unless you have a truly good journal. I’m inclined to think that this one is legit.

The MDPI journal "Mathematics" provides a partial counterexample. It is completely terribly but has a high impact factor. In engineering areas an Annals level impact factor is not high, rather it's quite mediocre.

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fkfd

As a probabilist looking at the few probability papers published in pi, the overall quality seems quite good to me

The paracontrolled distribution paper is a groundbreaking work that could go to any math journal

Most of the other papers are solid works that are at about Duke level

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biao

As a probabilist looking at the few probability papers published in pi, the overall quality seems quite good to me

The paracontrolled distribution paper is a groundbreaking work that could go to any math journal

Most of the other papers are solid works that are at about Duke level

Self promotion

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hgpo

As a probabilist looking at the few probability papers published in pi, the overall quality seems quite good to me

The paracontrolled distribution paper is a groundbreaking work that could go to any math journal

Most of the other papers are solid works that are at about Duke level

Self promotion

I am not sure a paper cited >500 times needs self promotion on MJR, but that’s an interesting speculation

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jffi

As a probabilist looking at the few probability papers published in pi, the overall quality seems quite good to me

The paracontrolled distribution paper is a groundbreaking work that could go to any math journal

Most of the other papers are solid works that are at about Duke level

Self promotion

These are the same kinds of probability folks who constantly claim at hiring meetings that we should view papers in their special probability journals as equivalent to duke/inventiones. I hear similar claims from logicians. Thankfully there are adults in the room to sigh, roll their eyes, and go back to hiring real mathematicians.

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