# Postdoc application results

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alpd

The post that started this mess was definitely an attack on him, claiming he “shouldn’t get a postdoc” and suggesting that he hadn’t done anything during his grad school career (how could someone possibly know this unless they’re at Vermont?).

That's like his opinion, man. I suppose they inferred that he did nothing because nothing was posted on the arxiv.

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alpd

The post that started this mess was definitely an attack on him, claiming he “shouldn’t get a postdoc” and suggesting that he hadn’t done anything during his grad school career (how could someone possibly know this unless they’re at Vermont?).

That's like his opinion, man. I suppose they inferred that he did nothing because nothing was posted on the arxiv.

I guess he posted two things on Mochizuki on the arxiv. Honestly I didn't care enough to check before posting.

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hqbg
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It makes sense to care about his idiot advisor (who he was smart enough to eventually drop), but I think that people that young should be cut some slack for stuff like that.

Who was his idiot advisor (and why an idiot?)

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ftnf
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It makes sense to care about his idiot advisor (who he was smart enough to eventually drop), but I think that people that young should be cut some slack for stuff like that.

Who was his idiot advisor (and why an idiot?)

Taylor Dupuy. He was an idiot for having a grad student go all-in on Mochizuki, which even at the time was obviously career suicide.

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vayu
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Who was his idiot advisor (and why an idiot?)

Taylor Dupuy. He was an idiot for having a grad student go all-in on Mochizuki, which even at the time was obviously career suicide.

Well, he wrote at least two papers with him. On the other hand, my advisor hasn't given me any feedback after my third paper.

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ftnf
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Taylor Dupuy. He was an idiot for having a grad student go all-in on Mochizuki, which even at the time was obviously career suicide.

Well, he wrote at least two papers with him. On the other hand, my advisor hasn't given me any feedback after my third paper.

Yeah, he might have managed to screw the pooch on his own tenure case too with a couple of crank papers. One can only hope.

My advisor still has no idea which of my papers formed my thesis.

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utmt
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Well, he wrote at least two papers with him. On the other hand, my advisor hasn't given me any feedback after my third paper.

Yeah, he might have managed to screw the pooch on his own tenure case too with a couple of crank papers. One can only hope.

My advisor still has no idea which of my papers formed my thesis.

Really? Looks like he has some decent publications. Eg I have no idea about number theory, but his CV say he has a paper accepted at Math. Annalen. Does the average Vermont prof publish papers in good journals like this?

(My impression was not really, but idk.)

It does indeed seem crazy to have a student study Mochizuki, so no idea wtf he was thinking there?!

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zgzq

Really? Looks like he has some decent publications. Eg I have no idea about number theory, but his CV say he has a paper accepted at Math. Annalen. Does the average Vermont prof publish papers in good journals like this?

(My impression was not really, but idk.)

Hi Taylor! long time no see!

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yqjl

Really? Looks like he has some decent publications. Eg I have no idea about number theory, but his CV say he has a paper accepted at Math. Annalen. Does the average Vermont prof publish papers in good journals like this?

(My impression was not really, but idk.)

Hi Taylor! long time no see!

Must be in a rough place to feel like you have to rag on an obscure dude at a VLRM. Sorry. But you do you!

And the people mocking his grad student AH are frankly pathetic.

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urfo

Someone from UVM has entered the chat:

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Hi Taylor! long time no see!

Must be in a rough place to feel like you have to rag on an obscure dude at a VLRM. Sorry. But you do you!

And the people mocking his grad student AH are frankly pathetic.

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mske

is the postdoc application season pretty much over now?

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sqat

is the postdoc application season pretty much over now?

In the older posts on this thread, people have made remarks along the lines of "I know someone who got a job in late March / April / early May". Sometimes they were even talking about themselves.

However, I think it's fair to say that while late-season jobs exist, if you're on the postdoc market and have not heard any nibbles yet you should start planning your fallback options (e.g., extra year in grad school, teaching gigs, industry exits, ...).

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rlrp

I got an offer today. But I got lucky; after my failure in the postdoc season, my supervisor used their connections.

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oyrc

I got an offer today. But I got lucky; after my failure in the postdoc season, my supervisor used their connections.

You mean you also applied last year?

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rlrp

I got an offer today. But I got lucky; after my failure in the postdoc season, my supervisor used their connections.

You mean you also applied last year?

Nope, just this year, but the offers period is over since a couple of weeks already. Sorry man, but if you have no offers at this point then you should think about leetcoding (or ask your supervisor to get you a job).

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klqy
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You mean you also applied last year?

Nope, just this year, but the offers period is over since a couple of weeks already. Sorry man, but if you have no offers at this point then you should think about leetcoding (or ask your supervisor to get you a job).

For most places in the US, but there are still a few open in the US and more in Europe & Asia

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cajm

Do your colleagues have offers? My department is small, and many of the friends who started with me in the same year have either quit or changed their field to applied math. Therefore, I am not aware of what is going on for positions in pure math.

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qwzc
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Who was his idiot advisor (and why an idiot?)

Taylor Dupuy. He was an idiot for having a grad student go all-in on Mochizuki, which even at the time was obviously career suicide.

To be fair, Dupuy is a good guy who is sincere about math research. I appreciate the videos he made on youtube about IUT, among other topics. While it was indeed risky for him to invest significant amount of time on IUT, there was nothing morally wrong with that. Remember, when the initial IUT papers were posted, many prominent people spent time trying to understand them. The problem with the technical detail of the papers, and Mochizuki's uncoorperative stance, only gradually emerged later.

On the other hand, I totally agree that it was a major misjudgement that he let his PhD student put all eggs in the IUT basket. Moreover, he had no plan B when it became clear that it would not work.

Thirdly, Hilado made the mistake of then switching to an even worse advisor (CV, who happens to be TD's wife and is weak in math yet super woke). Hilado wants to do Langlands, something CV is not capable of advising. They will let him graduate anyway.

I think this whole discussion is not meant for us to put Anton down. Many of us have sympathy for him. Rather, his case is representative of a phenomenon that's prevalent in math PhD programs (particularly the LRM ones). Namely, a clueless advisor leading the student to a dead end, yet acting like nothing is wrong. Student then drops out of the scene never to be heard again. Then onto the next student. Rinse and shine. It is this aspect that needs to be discussed.

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xxtj
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Yeah, he might have managed to screw the pooch on his own tenure case too with a couple of crank papers. One can only hope.

My advisor still has no idea which of my papers formed my thesis.

Really? Looks like he has some decent publications. Eg I have no idea about number theory, but his CV say he has a paper accepted at Math. Annalen. Does the average Vermont prof publish papers in good journals like this?

(My impression was not really, but idk.)

It does indeed seem crazy to have a student study Mochizuki, so no idea wtf he was thinking there?!

The Math Annalen paper is coauthored with Kedlaya and DZB. Still, it's a good publication. Dupuy also has 2 papers in Selecta (coauthored with advisor), and quite a few in lower-ranked (but OK) journals - Math Res Lett, Bordeaux, etc. Putting together, I would say his publication record is comparable to, e.g., Nick Rozenblyum.

It is not crazy to have a student study IUT. Look at Kedlaya's website with the list of 'Questions of Interest". The IUT entry is still there. The difference, though, is that (1) The advisor has to have the strength to guide the student towards a meaningful outcome, and (2) Needs to have Plan B if (1) fails, given the risky nature of the topic. It's on those accounts that Dupuy's inexperience shows.

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ukyd
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Really? Looks like he has some decent publications. Eg I have no idea about number theory, but his CV say he has a paper accepted at Math. Annalen. Does the average Vermont prof publish papers in good journals like this?

(My impression was not really, but idk.)

It does indeed seem crazy to have a student study Mochizuki, so no idea wtf he was thinking there?!

The Math Annalen paper is coauthored with Kedlaya and DZB. Still, it's a good publication. Dupuy also has 2 papers in Selecta (coauthored with advisor), and quite a few in lower-ranked (but OK) journals - Math Res Lett, Bordeaux, etc. Putting together, I would say his publication record is comparable to, e.g., Nick Rozenblyum.

That's one of the funniest things I've read on here in a while - bravo.

It is not crazy to have a student study IUT. Look at Kedlaya's website with the list of 'Questions of Interest". The IUT entry is still there. The difference, though, is that (1) The advisor has to have the strength to guide the student towards a meaningful outcome, and (2) Needs to have Plan B if (1) fails, given the risky nature of the topic. It's on those accounts that Dupuy's inexperience shows.

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